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By: Stephan Spencer


Shara Ogin
“To get to where you want to be, you need to let go a little bit. When you’re in full alignment—body, mind, spirit—things will come without effort.”
Shara Ogin

Sometimes, in life, you can have a lot of titles and accomplishments and– on paper– seem quite together, when on the inside, you’re struggling and feeling anything but together.

My guest on today’s show shares her experience of seeming to have it all, yet grappling with a pervasive insecurity and growing depression, which led her to explore spirituality and energy work. Shara Ogin is a clairvoyant, a life coach, an author, and a reverend passionate about helping people remove those invisible blocks and barriers that stand in the way of them accessing their deepest purpose and potential. She’s been featured on NBC Sports for her predictions and has spoken at numerous festivals, workshops, and events.

In this powerful discussion, Shara highlights how past traumas, ancestral baggage, and deep-seated patterns shape our current reality. She offers practical tools and insights for anyone looking to navigate their own spiritual path with more clarity and purpose. From understanding the significance of cutting energetic cords to embracing our innate psychic gifts, this episode is a journey into the heart of healing and personal growth. So, without any further ado, on with the show!

In this Episode

  • [01:47]Shara Ogin shares her journey of discovering psychic superpowers and healing limiting beliefs.
  • [05:29]Shara reflects on her past efforts to achieve success and realizes that aligning with her true desires and letting go of limiting beliefs can lead to manifestation without effort.
  • [09:43]Shara shares personal experiences and insights on the importance of accepting current circumstances, including financial scarcity, and working through emotions to shift out of scarcity mode.
  • [13:05]Shara explains how her work helps people shift their alignment and release stored memories.
  • [18:48]Shara discusses addressing the root cause of physical ailments, such as chronic back pain or Lyme disease, which may be related to past trauma or unresolved issues.
  • [23:21]Shara believes past trauma or unresolved karmic debt can cause chronic illness or pain in this life or future generations.
  • [29:51]Stephan asks Shara how she connects with her inner guidance.
  • [33:58]Shara describes how she started seeing visions and imagery during their clairvoyant training.
  • [47:08]Shara offers various techniques and exercises to help individuals overcome these limiting beliefs and find their purpose and passion, including body and being exercises to connect body and spirit.

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Shara, it’s so great to have you on the show.

It’s so great to be here. Thank you.

Let’s start by sharing your origin story of how you discovered these psychic superpowers and what your story arc was earlier.

There are many ways to explain that. Honestly, I would have a perfect life if I told you how it was. I have loving parents. I started in the medical field at the age of 21. I was an occupational therapist and an ergonomist for about 25 years.

On paper, it’s awesome. But the truth is, I was struggling a lot on the inside. I didn’t know how to have a relationship with friends, let alone a man. That was one of my main difficulties. I felt depressed, and I felt alone on the outside. 

I have a lot of titles behind my name. I have a reverend. I’m an ergonomist. I have six titles, but I think the main thing that qualifies me is the amount of my life that I lived in darkness, with walls around me, and feeling on the outside, feeling like, “I don’t belong here. I don’t belong in this family. I don’t belong in this type of life,” and feeling the pain of separation, the pain of not belonging.

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I went on this quest for about 25 years. I did every transpersonal and actualization course. I’m NLP trained. I lived in intentional communities. I lived at the Buddhist Zen Center for a year. It was all for me to figure out the meaning of life and what it would take to be happy.

Still, at 39, I have never had a real relationship with a man. All the reasons why I was lacking in self-love and body image, but that was more in my twenties. Then I just said, “I want to live the life I want to. I want to end my limiting beliefs. I want to step into self-love and break down any of the walls standing in the way of my relationship.”

That’s when I entered into a clairvoyant program. I was there for four years. My first year was basically me crying. By the third year, I had healed so much. I healed my relationship with my father, my past life stuff, and all those reasons why I always compared myself to other people and felt like I wasn’t good enough.

By the end of three years there, I had basically healed almost all my limiting beliefs and all my limiting thoughts. People started to come to me for readings and healing, and I realized that I had the ability to evoke the same change in other people. I was maybe doing my 200th free reading at the school on another woman coming to me to find love. At that time, I had nothing left in me to heal.

As healers, the law of attraction, someone comes to you for something they need healing, and you’re like, “Oh, yeah, I know that one.” After 200 readings, that’s when my husband’s energy came in, or a man came into my art field. I met my husband that year. I had a baby at the age of 47. People have been coming to me for readings, and my whole life has shifted.

I’ve stepped out of the occupational therapy license but no longer work in a clinic. I never intended to have this U-turn in my life, but I have surrendered to a higher power to guide me and use me in the way that best serves my abilities.

Wow. Congratulations on your success and on having not only your soulmate but also a baby at age 47. That’s miraculous.

Yeah. I live in, for the most part, a synchronous flow. One thing I’ve realized and reflected on is that so much of my life was an effort to make the grades. I think it’s an ancestral family belief that you have to work hard to make money. You have to work hard to succeed. My whole life has been crafted upon that ideology. 

I live authentically, wanting to help people in whatever way I can. I want to rise and stop the suffering, the pain of separation, or whatever is needed for others to live a happy, fulfilling life.

I realized that to really get to where you want to be, you could let go a little bit. When you’re in full alignment—body, mind, spirit—things will come without effort.

I’m working with many of my clients on how to stop attempting and wanting that so badly. That’s the very thing that pushes so many things away. It’s like, “I wanted a boyfriend so bad, I would do anything.” I go to the bars and be like, “There, maybe he’s that.” I wasn’t just bringing myself to the table.

Now, when I bring myself to the table, and I’m authentic, I’m not trying to get a client. I’m not trying to make money. I just live authentically, wanting to help people in whatever way I can to rise and stop the suffering, the pain of separation or whatever it is and live a more happy, fulfilling life.

It might sound hard to our listener to think of being in a place of lack, suddenly shutting that off, and then feeling like, “Oh, well, the universe has my back, or the creator is going to provide everything I need, so why am I worried?” 

That sounds good. That’s easy to say, but it’s a lot harder to do in practice when you don’t have enough money to pay the bills, you don’t have a partner or a peer group, or maybe you’re badly in debt. 

What do you tell a person going through that when they want to follow in your footsteps and manifest the life of their dreams, but it just feels like a pipe dream?

First of all, I get it, especially with COVID. People are going through a lot right now. The first reason you don’t have what you want in your life is because there is a limiting belief standing in the way of you. Part of my work involves distilling, “What is that limiting thought? What is the limiting belief?”

We live in the law of attraction. I try to stay away from catchphrases like that, but it’s actually true. When we’re out of a resonant vibration of having what we want, it just won’t come. I have an example of that if you want that.

The other thing is that we need to balance dead-level practical things with more abstract ones. I came from a very practical world. I came from the medical field. I have a family of doctors. Everything needs to be science-based. Maybe I saw a psychologist when I was younger, and everything needed to logically make sense in my world.

We need to get aligned with the truth rather than dreaming or meditating our way past trauma.

Over the past decade, I’ve transitioned into dropping into my heart and feeling the truth in this moment. And sometimes, the truth hurts. I’ve also learned that we need to get into acceptance of the current state, no matter how broken. My daughter just broke her arm, and no matter how awful it is, we need to get an alignment and the truth. Instead of just dreaming or meditating our way out of it, part of it is feeling it, so we come to feel reality and stop running from emotions. 

If someone has financial scarcity, which, of course, is a very common topic, I work with them on being accepting of the current state. Then, there are things I could do energetically to help them shift out of that scarcity mode. It’s being on the rat wheel of your scarcity. You need money, and then things happen against you that prevent you from having money. We need to get someone out of that scarcity field first.

Do you have some sort of process that you take them through?

There are many things I do. When I work with people, it’s a combination of coaching and energy healing. Some people work so hard. About a decade ago, I started working with a Reiki healer, and she just was able to take this pain away from me. Like, “I’m always going to be single.” My alarm clock worries, and then I was like, “That’s so cool.” I’ve learned how she does that. It’s a balance between the client doing the work and me helping them through it. Some of it is that I have superpowers that could help with that. 

The other thing is I believe that in everything you’re going through, all the pain begins at three origin levels. One is childhood imprints. If someone has this core cellular scarcity, this isn’t the first time they’ve felt it. It’s usually that record skipping that has been playing that theme throughout their life. We need to get to the beginning of where that record started, most likely before a conscious memory.

The second place is ancestral. Your parents are like, “There’s not enough money for dinner. We need to buy top ramen for dinner,” whatever it is. That gets transferred onto you. There’s so much we could do to release the ancestral ties.

We live by the law of attraction.

The third is past life, which I will refrain from really talking about because I never believed in past lives. I never believed in any of this before 15 years ago. I guess the only way I know that my work works is because when I do sessions with people, things like their spine straighten. If they have physical pain, their pain goes away, which is crazy because I spent 25 years working at outpatient clinics, similar to a physical therapist.

I was doing carpal tunnel, tennis elbow, and shoulder. If someone said psychic, I would be a total disbeliever. I came from that camp. Then I started to do these things like energy healing, even coaching, even whatever it takes to release the root of the pain. And their pain goes away again and again.

Sometimes, I say I’m a weight loss coach because not only that, but the pounds start coming off when I work with people. For a woman, when they start holding weight or gaining weight, I think it’s mostly toxic weight. What we’re doing here is we’re releasing the toxic energy of whatever it is. Whether it comes from any of those three places—ancestral, past life, or childhood imprints—those are the three core places that are at the root of it. 

I think seeing a psychologist and doing that kind of work is great. I love it when someone comes to me and has already been doing the work. But most practitioners can only work with as much as you bring them. I see beyond that into the subconscious, beyond what people have conscious knowledge of.

This was the thing that even 15 years ago, I was still in such deep pain because no psychologist, no acupuncture, no therapist was able to help me because it was so at a cellular level. When I work with people, I’m looking for an ecological change, a shift in their cellular alignment.

When you’re in full alignment—body, mind, and spirit— achieving your goals becomes effortless.

The shift must occur on two levels. One is the physical, that’s the physiology. This means the way a person breathes. In my twenties, I walked with my head down and had zero confidence. You’d be like, “What’s your name?” I’d be like, “I’m Shara.” Through somatic work, I was able to shift my posture. I also do retreats, and I have free online resources for somatic work to help change your body at a physical level.

The other side is the mental psychosocial, which is if you have anxiety, which every woman has anxiety these days, fears, there’s so much that could be done around that. Anxiety is usually up and out. One of the key tips I could give the audience is that we need to learn to bring the energy in and out. We need to ground.

In the back of my book, I have a list of ways to ground, but literally going out and weeding, going out into the garden, and walking barefoot. All these things help to bring the energy of anxiety down. That’s just one of hundreds of tricks I have on decreasing anxiety and worry.

The amazing thing is when you help somebody on the mental psychosocial if I give you a session, you have anxiety. I did whatever magic stuff I did to help the anxiety. Your physical body will shift. At the same time, just the opposite is true: every trauma, every pain you’ve experienced in your entire life, you’re holding. Your body is a stored memory of that at a cellular level.

Release the toxic energy that hinders you from healing pain or illness.

Before doing any more woo-woo and coaching work, I was a Feldenkrais practitioner since 2002. It’s a four-year training. I would do these very gentle touches with people to help reorganize their nervous system and skeleton.

People would start crying at my table all the time. When I teach workshops, I’ll just do a Feldenkrais lesson. I’m telling you, I’ve never taught a retreat where at least half the people don’t cry. I call that my psychology without words because they’re just releasing something on the physical level that has a stored memory.

As I said, I don’t need to know what it is; I don’t need to know why they’re crying, but something shifts. As that shifts, their body shifts, and it also helps them on a psychological level. We’ll see things like their peripheral vision opening and their eyesight improving. They’ll get a millimeter taller after my workshop, so it’s crazy.

One of the core messages I want to leave the audience with is that you could get there. Everybody has the powers within to shift whatever predicament they grew up with. However bad their life is, you could shift it. I recommend addressing it from the body, the mind, and the spirit.

Are you familiar with the book The Body Keeps the Score?

Yes, that was a book I submitted to some publishers, my book comparison with.

What’s different and similar between your book and The Body Keeps the Score?

I read part of the book. It’s very basic and good for lay people who are just starting to understand the mind-body connection. In the back of my book,  I outlined 150 diagnoses or more, and I keep adding the root causes and possible solutions to them. I address many other things, like the ancestral component of pain. 

I’d say mine’s a little bit of a higher level, even though a beginning person can understand my book just fine. I wrote it so that it could be a beginning person or a more advanced practitioner who could still get a lot of wisdom.

We need to allow our positive energy to follow, and learn to release negative energy. We need to ground ourselves.

Louise Hay’s You Can Heal Your Life blew my mind when I read it 15 or 20 years ago. Then I realized, “Wait a second, affirmations aren’t going to get you out of pain.” I was in a little bit of a disagreement with some of her answers. I was like, “Wait, this is inconsistent with what I’m getting in my information from my readings.”

Also, when I was working in therapy as a therapist, I noticed that certain personalities, like carpal tunnel and strokes, have something very specific. I realized everybody coming to me had this whole emotional rollercoaster of stuff in their lives. I only put the OT hat on while treating them in the clinic. But later, when I was finishing my last few years of doing that work, I realized, “Wait a second, this is really interesting.”

When I saw someone more of a coach if someone came to my practice here, I started to make a record of, “Wait a second, this person has this, and these are the underlying factors,” not just from what they told me but what I saw energetically as a root. And they were consistent themes. I was like, “Let me just start writing these down.” That became how I started adding that into my book.

The other thing is I have this thing like tennis elbow, for instance, pushing the world away from you. “Then what? What do you do with it?” I was like, “I got you.” For one thing, I healed my ADD because it is simply not wanting to be in my body, but I have no reason not to want to be in my body anymore.

I still use my wisdom as an OT. I’m the sole proponent for going for your OT and PT. That is a great one-layer to get your treatment on. There’s also the energetic and psychosocial. I love combining all my wisdom and seeing a person deeply in the full package.

As therapists and doctors, we’re taught to see the parts of the body. We’re not taught to see the person as a whole. I have learned how to see a whole person now and to really feel what’s going on at the root.

If our listener is experiencing chronic back pain or they have some sort of chronic illness like Lyme disease or autoimmune issue, there’s a root cause that’s beyond the physical. It may be past life–related, or it’s related to some unresolved trauma from their childhood. How do you identify what’s underlying a physical ailment?

That’s where my energy readings come in. Back pain is almost always low back pain, carrying the weight of the world. So many people are really caring. Have you noticed, Stephan? So many people are caring for their sick mother, working overtime. It’s just like who is living in freedom these days.

Let’s just take the example of back pain. Lyme disease, you mentioned that one, too, is too many people needing them all at once. These are all what I call karmic themes. This is what I’m talking about. These are things that have been going on their whole life. If we could change the story, change the root of it, like for back pain that everybody is carrying so much weight, there are many ways. There was not one way I worked with a person.

I’ve been working with a lot of back pain lately. I’m just releasing the burden. Sometimes, I work with people and work in relationships. “What’s the burden? Is it your coworkers that keep talking down to you? Is it your mother that’s sick?”

When I work with two people, I’ll do an energetic update on the contract, and their dynamic always changes. I’m determined to help a person take some of that extra effort. Sometimes, it’s in the mind. It’s all up to me. That burden is up to me. I need to take it on myself.

Moshé Feldenkrais was a judo master and martial artist. There’s no woo in Feldenkrais, and it’s very science-based. He worked at the Radium Institute. He was a scientist. He also comes from a very medical background, and I come from a medical background.

Here’s a really important point. Another reason why most people have pain is because they’re overusing certain muscle groups. They’re overusing their distal extremities and their hands and underutilizing their core muscular groups, which are the pelvis and the lower back. We’re walking through the world like we’re wearing a straitjacket.

Sometimes, this happens because of an injury, but that’s not usually the root. The root is trauma or sitting over your computer for eight to ten hours a day. This part becomes unmovable and out of your awareness, especially on your back. To find a Feldenkrais practitioner, go to the Feldenkrais website and put it in your zip code. Or you could do it on your own through the class.

Through Feldenkrais’s work, we bring awareness to certain parts of the body that are out of our awareness. There are seven lumbar vertebrae. Most people overutilize those. The thoracic, above, is held, not moving at all.

If you want to know what efficient movement is, just watch an infant move. What happens is that all the vertebrae move like links in a chain—one moves, and then the next, and the next. I know this because I have taught three retreats in the past three weeks and touched about 20 bodies. I don’t think there was one that was moving efficiently. They were locked. Certain vertebrae are locked together.

Your body is made up of stored memories.

The result is that the scapula, the shoulder blade, will not glide properly, and the arms will overwork. Whatever came first, the chicken or the egg, doesn’t matter, but we need to move this part more efficiently. There’s no pill, no chiropractor crack, and no acupuncture point that will get this moving. The only thing that will get this moving is the reeducation of the nervous system, bones, ligaments, joints, and how they communicate with the brain.

Once that happens, for one thing, the pain goes away. The shoulder blade starts gliding, and we can take the work off the arm. I can’t tell you how many clients I’ve had who have had unnecessary surgeries. I don’t want to doubt anything the doctor says, but if they could learn to use themselves more efficiently, the back pain could disappear.

Are you able to connect somebody’s past life trauma, some unresolved karmic debt, or something like that to a chronic illness or pain that they’re experiencing in this lifetime? 


How do you do that?

Let’s look at it this way. Mind you, I was not a believer in past life. Even if you don’t believe me, this still works. We all came into this life with unresolved things from past lives but things we’re here to accomplish in this lifetime.

For instance, I was basically mute. I was the shyest kid in school, and I was picked on my entire childhood. For me, it was finding my voice, finding my expression, and finding my uniqueness. In order to find what we’re here to do, we have hardships usually, whether you come from that piece of home, poverty, or whatever it is that takes you to the endpoint.

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Usually, we come in with stuff, like, if you want to say, past unresolved lives. So sure, we could go back. But the pain is still here. The pain of isolation, I still have access point to that. The pain of being separate, the pain of being the one that nobody believed, or however you want to say. I still have cellular memory of that, so I could heal it at that level. There’s still healing in the present life, not only in the present life but for future generations.

This is the reason I believe my daughter waited so long to come into this world because I had a lot of healing myself to do. You asked about how we heal the physical body on that. Anything that isn’t healed, whether past life or ancestral childhood, will eventually somatically express itself. I’m not sure I answered your question exactly. Do you want to point me to more of what your question was?

For example, let’s say that somebody has a scar or a birthmark, and perhaps that correlates to the person’s past life where they were stabbed. Maybe that was how they died. 

Not to say that they’re having chronic pain or something, but that is an example of the body keeping the score across lifetimes. How would you access that? How would you clairvoyantly? I can see you getting stabbed in this part of your body. Do you have anything going on there? “Oh, yeah, I’ve got a scar there. I have a big birthmark or whatever.” How does that work?

One of the reasons why people experience pain is because they overuse certain muscle groups, such as their distal extremities.

Every part of our body—there’s a reason why we’re shaped this way or we come in this color. It does define where we came from and where we’re going. When I hear the example of the scar, this might be something about self-concept. That could be the theme that they’re meant to work on this lifetime, feeling unashamed of how they look. We could look at it from past life, but I want to work with the emotional component and where the person’s going. 

On my website, I have a free Find Your Purpose workbook. The greatest hardships we face in this life have a lot of information that defines the trajectory of where we’re supposed to be going. It all makes sense now.

Would I want to live the same childhood again? Probably not, but now I can look back and be grateful for some of my hardships, which made me stronger. When I’m working with a person, the amount of time it takes if you lost a husband or anything, there’s no time frame for healing that. If we can grasp the lessons sooner and integrate them, I believe that will help us move our evolutionary pathway forward.

What happens if they never figure that out? They just suffer through chronic pain or ailment, and they have no conscious understanding of what the root cause is.

That’s most people, right?

What are the implications? In school, if you don’t learn the lessons, then you have to retake the course.

I don’t think I’ve said this to a client, but you may be revisiting those lessons in the future. I do believe that. Let me tell you, most of my work doesn’t deal with past lives because I really deal with a person. I’m not a wooing person. These words I’m using, don’t let it scare you away. It’s in the whole family. I don’t use any of these words about my family.

Right. But you do tarot readings. That’s pretty woo. How did that come about?

I do woo-woo stuff, but people who come to me are more mainstream than I was mainstream. I think that’s my point. By using words like past life, I just don’t want anybody to get scared around that.

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I’m curious to hear how the tarot is part of your life, practice, and belief system. How do you utilize it for yourself and your clients?

Very little. In fact, I only use tarot for events. I get hired to do weddings and the like, to do readings. I get most of my information from here. I put out a psychic screen. The tarot cards are one level of information, so I could look and get some information about whatever the question is.

Most tarot card readers simply read the information on the cards as the instructions tell them to read the information from the cards. I’ll take that and put it into the mix. My mental computer, and I’ll be like, “Oh, she got the happy card, the star card, or whatever.” And then I’ll be like, “Well, how does that fit into the whole screen?”

You could say I have synesthesia. Synesthesia is where I combine multiple sensory modalities. My seeing, my hearing, and my feelings get integrated into one. It’s not overwhelming because I’ve been working with them and training my senses for a while. I’ll be like, “Okay, here’s a card.”

When I feel it, see it, and ask my guides what the deeper meaning of this is, through practice, my answers come faster. There is a lot of information to take in. Then, it’s a matter of communicating in a way that a client can actually receive it.

How do you ask your guides? Are you talking to yourself in your head? Are you saying things out loud?

No, I just ask in my head.

How do you get the answers? Is it inner voice monologue that’s happening? Is it visions, pictures, or a feeling and knowing?

That’s a great question. By the way, for all the Libras and Libra risings in the world, decisions can be very difficult. I’m thinking, “I’m going to answer this from how I explain to clients to get their own information.” One way I teach clients is how to connect to their hearts, which, if you want to do this audience, you’re welcome to.

Put your left hand onto your heart, fill your heartbeat into your hands, and create an all-loving, nurturing environment as if you had a baby’s head resting here. Then you could ask yourself to your heart, “Is my name Stephan?” You’ll feel what a yes vibration is, and then I’ll say, “Ask yourself, is my name Shara?” And you’ll get a no vibration. Part of it is getting to know your yes and no vibrations.

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I’ll do slower on that so that they can really feel the difference, and then we’ll get into more difficult questions. Part of it is learning to trust your heart for your guidance center. That is one thing I do for myself as well. Also, I have connected with a spirit guide. I usually start, “Show me my yes, show me my no,” because sometimes I get biased. And then I’ll ask a question, and you could see it.

Sometimes, I see a yes in a certain way, whether I do a gauge and I’m like, “This is a yes, this is a no,” wherever it is on the gauge. There are a few other ways that I see a yes. Sometimes, I see a jumping-up energy. “Yes, yes, yes. Go for it. Totally, yes.” And then I have clarified what my no looks like, but that takes more training. I usually teach people just the hand on the heart and finding their yes and no.

I wrote about this in my book. Of course, there are biases. We are biased by ourselves. Our mind will guide us towards that, which I’m biased towards, and this is one of the issues going on in social media. 

Whatever you think, whatever you believe, if you believe the elections were rigged, yes, they were rigged, and you’ll find so much evidence around that. If you believe that it happened how it should, the elections, then there’ll be so much evidence for that.

Part of being a good healer is actually getting your own self out of the way. This is true for anybody making their own decisions. It’s an art to get your own self out of your way. 

On that note, it is a slightly different topic, but in order to be a good healer or a good coach, I did three years of coaching training, but I was never really a good coach. Once I completed the psychic training and healed my own stuff, I didn’t need to busy myself in my mind with my stuff. 

My stuff is boring. Even when I talk about it, I don’t really have a trigger on it. If anybody wants to know my deepest, deepest wounds, okay, sure, I’ll share with you. But I’m able now to get myself out of the way and fully be present with clients or whoever comes to me.

The trauma we bury internally — ancestral, childhood events, or past lives — will ultimately surface somatically. Only by addressing trauma can we completely align and heal.

All the time, I get asked by my clients, “Should I pursue healing? Why be a healer?” I’m like, “No one’s just going to take a class and be a healer, whatever modality you go on. I’m supportive of all of your journey in doing these healing classes or whatever energy work or coaching work. But mostly, it’s a journey to heal yourself.” When you get to that point where you can get yourself out of the way, you’ll get much clearer information.

When I completed the clairvoyant training, all of a sudden, after 20 years of interpersonal work and three years of coaching training, it all made sense. Then, I could do NLP on past lives and NLP on childhood stuff. I’ve been pinning together my own formula. I had some great teachers. Instead of doing it just as they taught me through practice and trial and error, I’m learning that this makes the most sense.

When you started the clairvoyant training, did you have any otherworldly visions or imagery come to you?

No, I only started because I was working with a coach. I was still mainstream. I didn’t even believe in the word clairvoyant or psychic, but I literally just wanted to be happy. I wanted to stop comparing myself to other people and feeling jealous, and I wanted to find love. I wasn’t looking for a career change because I really liked my work as an occupational therapist.

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I remember the teacher said everybody’s psychic. I was like, “I don’t get what that means. Do I have to make something up?” It’s as simple as imagining a purple rhinoceros right now. As you imagine a purple rhinoceros, you’re seeing a vision.

A psychic is really like a muscle. I never believed that we had this ability, but we all have it inside of us. Part of it is expanding your imagination. As you expand it, you’ll start to see more colors and dreams. This work will really expand your dreams.

With practice, just like going to the gym and working weights, I started to see. There was that one reading in my first year, and all of a sudden, I saw something. I said, “I think I see whatever I saw.” I said, “I think I see some fish in a pool.” We’re trying to find a past life, but I was like, “I don’t really know if this makes any sense.” By the second year, it’s clearing that self-doubt. Then, by the third year, it’s learned to trust yourself.

Trust is a huge thing. Some of the women I work with have been hurt by men or taken advantage of, so they have trust issues. When we distrust the world, it ultimately stems from here. We want to gain more self-trust.

Getting out of your own way is an art.

Through that practice, I learned to trust my information and wisdom. I’ll also tell you that I’m not 100% percent correct. I don’t claim to be a fortune teller. I don’t claim to know all the answers. I’d say more, so maybe a 90%–95% accuracy rate, but that’s not important to me. What’s important is that there is an evoked change and that the person changes: I see it, I feel it, and they’re lighter when they leave my sessions.

Where is God in all of this? Are you calling on the creator, angels, or combination to do your work? Are you just referring to it as the universe or energy? How does God work into this?

My roots are Jewish. Whatever religion anybody is, it’s fine. Any of those words you want to use is completely acceptable. A lot of people do actually resonate with one word more than the other, so I want to refrain from offending anybody by using any particular word.

Ultimately, I use the word higher self. We all have a higher guidance center. One way to think about this is there’s a part of you that knows, or you could think about yourself one year from now, like your future self. Even Stephan, I say, take your eyes to the right because the right’s over here on the TV because that’s the future and NLP, neurolinguistic reprogramming, and being yourself out there.

What does your future person say about this? It works with either the future version of you or your higher self. This is another way to get information. With clients, being yourself one year from now, what does yourself tell you about staying in this relationship?

You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay

When we take ourselves out of it and get the information from somebody else, it actually makes it easier. Sometimes, when doing healing outside, you could even do metaphorical healing, like an NLP. Sometimes, I’ll share a story with myself, and then the wisdom at the end of the story about my experience was something similar. That’s what’s going to do the healing rather than directly impacting a person.

You mentioned earlier that you had your daughter at age 47. How did that come about? That’s pretty unusual.

She was a work in the making. The first step is that I had to accept that I will probably always be single for the rest of my life. Turning 40 and having the relationships I had had were the first part. That took me a few years to get there. If you tell somebody, they will be single for the rest of their life. I’m a rising laborer; I need relationships.

It felt like death at first, and then I came to acceptance because I started to realize I was good at something. I was good at doing my work, and I realized maybe this life wasn’t all about me. I started to put my attention outward and help people. That gave me a great sense of purpose. That was the first step.

It’s a longer story, but you know. Then the man came in, the possibility came in, and then I spent the next couple of years on a quest to heal whatever it was that would make me the best mother possible and bring in the highest light of a child.

Also, I led this one workshop at Burning Man a few times called Calling In Your Child. It’s like applying for a job that I said, this is what you got. On the positive, I’m extremely empathetic, loving, and caring. But on the downside, I have my own life. I’m less of a playground mom than maybe I would have been if I was younger. I probably won’t make it around much past your wedding.

I was like, “Choose me if it feels like a good fit.” I’d get that call out there. I felt her connect as soon as I got that call out there. The next year was about clearing any residual; for me, it was my free will and my free expression. My ability to play and have fun- I lost it somewhere along the road, in my childhood, after being hurt so many times as a child. And I needed to reclaim that.

As soon as I did, I saw the energy of this laughing, fun, giggly girl all around me. Then she came in. Gemini couldn’t talk more full freedom of expression. If anybody knows anything about astrology, my North node is her South node, and her South node is my North node. This journey was really all to be here to actually bring her in.

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That was the cherry on top of what I needed to heal and resolve within my life. From there, it’s all about giving back. I had some amazing teachers who took me under their wing in all my years of being so wounded. Now, I’m just here as a transporter to help other people heal themselves.

Beautiful. Are you familiar with the book Spirit Babies: How to Communicate the Child You’re Meant to Have?

Sounds like a good book.

It’s by Walter Makichen. He’s no longer on this side of the veil, but his book is phenomenal. It’s something maybe for our listeners to check out. The concept of communicating with your not-yet-born or even maybe conceived baby might be pretty out there for some of our listeners. What do you tell them if they’re feeling uncomfortable? Is this even something that is allowed by my religion? Is it too esoteric or occult? What do you tell them?

First of all, once again, if you’re doubting anything I’m saying, I was there too. I got you. Having a child is like calling in your soulmate or a partner’s soulmate. By the way, it’s the same for a pet too. Choosing your dog or cat is a whole other story, but it really is the vibration of attraction.

Surrender to a higher power to guide you and your abilities.

One thing is that so many women in their forties are trying to have a baby, and there’s such an infertility thing going on. When I work with women or look at women, most of the women there are pinning so much money into IVF that they’re unable to afford outside energetic help.

I want to say it’s like trying and wanting it so bad. This is against the law of attraction. The same thing with love. Every time, it’s like I wanted a partner. I was grabbing and wanting. Then, when I surrendered and let go, that’s when it happened.

This is back to your question about how you tell that to somebody who wants something so bad. It is a mindset shift. It really is. This also ties in with the theme of trust, like trusting that you are on the right path, trusting that these things are going to happen and unravel at the right time, in the right place and as they should.

I believe that we all want to get to that point where we’re in acceptance and alignment when we take that last breath of life and that we’re in peace and resonance with the life we have lived. Knowing whatever predicament you are in right now is like deciding how you want to live your life. Do you want to live in fear? Do you want to live in scarcity?

When you can identify and deal with your past trauma and limiting beliefs, you can choose how you want to live.

You could get the same outcome financially-wise, partner-wise, or child-wise with letting go of some of that anxiety and effort. You could use the visual right now of being a child and just being held, but at some level, energetically, that’s what I’m doing with my clients. I’m holding them, and I’m letting them know it’s going to be okay, whatever version it is. Whatever fear or doubt, it is going to be okay.

Do you believe in multiple timelines and that things are pretty much preordained on the timeline that we’re on, but we can choose different timelines?

I didn’t until I started studying astrology. Now that I’m studying astrology, whenever there’s a major mishap, I’ve been looking at the chart of how my daughter broke her arm three days ago. It all is in the astrology chart, but there is still free will. It’s like there are these major events that are going to happen, like accident-prone signs on the chart. But you do have a choice.

Even when I’m doing readings, I’m looking at the energy of love or whatever it is, and I’m seeing the most likely outcome. At the same time, you still have a choice. There’s still a possibility of you changing the outcome. Take whatever I say with a grain of salt. I’m not deciding your destiny for you.

When you talk to people, do you see into their future, or do you see into their soul?

I try not to.

What if they ask you, “Hey, can you tell me what’s in my future?” Are you able to just tap in an entity?

That’s not the use of my eyes’ gift. More so, it’s where you want to go. Whatever it is, let’s create a vision of that. Let’s see what’s getting in the way from where you are from point A, where you are to point B. And then my magic helps you clear those blocks, whether on the physical level, mental level, mind, or any of those levels I talked about. That’s where my magic comes from.

Of course, women ask me all the time, “Are we going to get married? Am I going to find a partner?” I’ll maybe touch on those questions a little bit. For the most part, they don’t kill the messenger. For the most part, I usually have nothing to achieve, like a win, by answering those questions.

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I did have an astrologer that told me. I asked him 15 years before I met my husband when I would find love, and it was the most devastating thing I have ever heard. I try to air caution on answering. I don’t predict death, by the way. People ask me all that. We don’t do any of that.

My philosophy is to spend less time trying to predict the future and more time trying to create it.

Exactly. I’m not going to tell anybody they’re stepping into an awful future, and I probably wouldn’t even be able to see that anyway if I tried. It’s more so like, take what you have. People usually come to me when they have stuff to work on. I could work with that. I could work with a lot about that to help change the situation and the feelings about it. Ultimately, what we’re dealing with is in here.

What would be the most impactful or powerful exercise from your workbook that our listeners should know about?

My workbook here starts with three belief change lessons. By the way, I also have a free YouTube video as well.

Ultimately, everybody’s got, ironically, five or six limiting beliefs that drive the course of their life. Everybody’s got like, “I don’t belong, I’m not good enough, or some version.” The ‘I’m not good enough’ is probably one of the main ones, especially with women. 

But there are different flavors of that, just like there are many flavors of chocolate ice cream. You want to find the specific flavor that you know. I could feel it. I could feel the flavor of ‘I’m Not Enough,’ but we’ve got to find the root of it and heal it. I could do this for you. I do this in my work, but you could also do it. That’s free. You could do it.

It’s written out. You could read it or read it into an audio tape and learn how to heal and find that. Limiting beliefs is one of those things that you want to hit so many times. If anybody says, “I have the one technique that will help you heal,” never believe that.

In my experience, I have 20 different versions of how I help people with their limiting beliefs. Sometimes, I try all of them, and each makes a difference. People are victims of habits. We go back to the same habit and then hit it again from another angle.

I’ll share a couple of other exercises as I’m cutting cords. I have a YouTube video for that. Boundaries and the purpose and passion, how to find your purpose, and then body and being, which is connecting body and spirit. Anybody with chronic pain has a body being malaligned. Anybody who doesn’t want to be in their physical body, at the root of that is usually trauma.

It doesn’t have to be one trauma like in the case of me. I was never abused or any of that stuff. But when it’s uncomfortable to be in your body, and you’re five years old, then that’s where you’re going to have a split. The split is called a disassociation. This is one of the reflexive ways that the body keeps itself safe.

We disassociate. Mom and Dad are yelling. If dad hits mom, then, of course, we want to leave our physical body, and that becomes ingrained in our coping mechanisms. Ironically, this isn’t in my workbook, but this is another side topic: we all have about five or six main coping mechanisms or defense mechanisms.

This is my next book, let’s say. At the root, it stems from the limiting belief and the circumstances, the limiting belief, and how we cope. Most of us are still doing that to this day as adults. We have maybe more mature circumstances going on that are pushing that trigger button, but the same limiting belief occurs. And then the same defense mechanism like passive-aggressive, you’re doing that again, or I’m out of here, whatever way we cope.

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.

Then, the universe shines back on us in the same circumstances. We start attracting that same unavailable man, that same man that treats you like crap, the same job that overworks you. The same way you’re living this life, the burdens, the upheaval, and all the things you’re dealing with every day just won’t stop. So we got to get it from the root.

You can change it anywhere along the line. You can change your defense mechanisms. I can’t change the circumstances. I probably can. I can’t change the circumstances or what happened in your childhood, but I can change your memory of it, help you to change your memory of it, and the outcome because of it, the cellular outcome, the things we’re passing on to our children.

Not only that, but we’re also passing on this information later. That means nieces, nephews, friends, community, we’re passing on the vibration of what we’re going through. When I look collectively, like when COVID started, there was so much fear. People were listening to the news, and I was like, “Wait a second.”

I was just watching it happen, all the fear and then all the physiological reactions that happened. I think right now, we’re healing from separation anxiety. We’re relearning how to connect with somebody else. And it’s a little bit weird. It’s a little bit shifted and a little bit different. I think most people will understand what I’m talking about. Do you understand what I’m talking about there, Stephan?

Yeah. I know we’re out of time, but if our listeners want to learn more from you, work with you, or attend some of your retreats or workshops, what’s the best next step for them?

Great. My website is, and my book is on Amazon and Barnes & Noble.

Awesome. Thank you, Shara. Thank you, listener. I appreciate you guys, my community, and my listeners so much for having an open mind and heart and being willing to suspend the disbelief. We’ll catch up with you in the next episode. I’m your host, Stephan Spencer, signing off.

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Checklist of Actionable Takeaways

?Release my limiting beliefs. Identify and address any beliefs that may be standing in the way of my goals and desires.

?Incorporate grounding practices into my daily routine. This helps to calm me and create a sense of stability. Activities such as walking barefoot, gardening, or connecting with nature can help reduce my anxiety and worries.

?Practice somatic movements to unlock my tension and release my pent up emotions. As I free areas where I feel stuck, I release my energy.

?Accept my current circumstances first before trying to change them. Make peace with my present, suspend my judgment, and move toward my goals from a loving foundation.

?Work on building my self-trust. Trusting myself is crucial for my psychic development and overall well-being. Learn to trust my own intuition and guidance through asking internal questions or connecting with my spirit guides.

?Connect to my heart center. Seek higher guidance to support my decision-making. Place my hands on my heart and attune to my inner wisdom. Believe that my inner voice holds answers.

?Surrender and trust in divine timing to find my soulmate. Achieve abundance by releasing my fixation on “how” details unfold. What’s in store for me cannot miss me.

?Transform my memories and outcomes to break generational cycles. Focus on creating my future rather than my predictions for my future.

?Consider a holistic approach to address both my mental and physical health. Allow all aspects of myself to flow toward alignment.

?Access a wealth of information and take the first step toward a transformative journey on Shara Orgin’s website, Download Shara’s insightful workbook for free at Schedule a reading at

About Shara Ogin

Shara Ogin is a clairvoyant, a life coach, and a reverend. She is passionate about helping people remove the invisible blocks and barriers that prevent them from accessing their deepest purpose and potential.

She has been featured on NBC Sports for her predictions and as a speaker at numerous festivals, workshops, and events.

She frequently works with women ready to call in love, career satisfaction, personal fulfillment, and abundance in all realms.

Having spent the two decades prior working in the medical field and as a Somatic Feldenkrais Practitioner®, she includes her vast knowledge of the body into her work, merging the practical with the metaphysical and the mind with the body.

Shara recently published a book and workbook titled “Unlocking the Body’s Wisdom; Accessing Your Healing Powers from Within,” in which she outlines the root cause of over 150 diagnoses and ailments and offers holistic treatment strategies.

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