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By: Stephan Spencer


Natasha Todorovic-Cowan
“Spiral Dynamics has emerged as a way to explore human nature and dynamics that allow us to experience transformative growth.”
Natasha Todorovic-Cowan

If you’ve been listening to my show for any length of time, you probably know that I’m a huge proponent of personality assessments: Kolbe, PRINT, StrengthsFinder, Enneagram, DISC, you name it, I’ve probably tried it, and I’ve figured out how to leverage the findings in my life and business. One assessment tool that I became aware of from Tony Robbins seminars a decade ago was Spiral Dynamics. Tony loves Spiral Dynamics and incorporates it into his Date with Destiny program. Spiral Dynamics is based on the theories, models, and work of Dr. Graves back in the 1950s. And now you’re about to deep dive into Spiral Dynamics with one of its top experts alive today.

Natasha Todorovic-Cowan is the CEO and co-founder of the National Values-Center Consulting (and owner of Spiral Dynamics brand). Whether your challenges are resistance to change, cultures in conflict, strategic partnerships, dysfunctional teams, or strategic change implementation, Natasha’s experience includes unraveling the people side of organizational challenges from the C-suite to the shop floor using a proven human systems approach, which you’re about to hear all about!

And now, without any further ado, on with the show!

  • [04:21]Natasha shares her origin story. Then, she explains how embracing the spiral dynamics approach can transform the world.
  • [10:35]Natasha discusses the origins of the spiral dynamics approach.
  • [19:20]How to break out of the duality of good and bad people.
  • [29:41]Natasha explains Plato’s cave allegory.
  • [34:59]How to become more relational to others.
  • [38:03]What are the practical ways to do today to improve relatability?
  • [42:28]How to reach beyond typologies, especially understanding others’ perspectives, intent, and emotional state.
  • [48:20]Natasha emphasizes how spiral dynamics change our perspective, even how we listen to m